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Hi,
Just wanted to say thanks for reminding the world about
the 5 mil. "others". Their existence has seemingly been forgotten against
the many voices speaking to Jewish losses. I don't have any connection
to WW2 or Poland and am not Jewish, but have known for a long time that
Jews were not the only ones to die in the Holocaust. I hope your message
about the many others that suffered directly and indirectly at the hands
of the Third Reich in the Holocaust reaches as many as possible. I read
about the handicapped and sick that Hitler had no use for. It is frightening
how tolerant we are becoming of the faces of evil, even in this post-Holocaust
age.
Regards,
Marcia Ward
Dear Mrs. Schwartz,
Thank you very much for this wonderful documentation. My parents and grandparents
also suffered under both the Nazis and Stalin's forces. My mother's family
was taken to Siberia. From there, my grandparents went with the reformed
Polish forces through the Near East, concluding their journey, and the
war, in Italy. Both were army personnel, my grandmother a nurse, my grandfather
a soldier. My father's father was a colonel with the Polish army, barely
escaping Stalin's massacres and burial in the Katyn forests. He was finally
captured in France by Hitler's forces. The fact that thousands of Polish
officers lost their lives through the rounding up and murder by Stalinist
forces is the one major piece missing from your beautiful essay. These
people did not die while fighting, but were slaughtered mercilessly by
Russian troops under the orders of Stalin who was afraid of their power
as he and Hitler were afraid of the power of the intelligentsia.
The pre-war Polish
army was not, as you have written, weak, but a well-organized and well-trained
force inspiring fear in both Hitler and Stalin, thus the destruction of
the officers. One somewhat depressing piece of trivia - did you know that
Stalin was, before coming to Russia, a would-be poet in his homeland of
Georgia?
Thank you once again,
Jadwiga Dunin-Borkowska
It's been a long time
finding someone who seems to care what happened and is willing to talk
about it. I visited my family in Poland and asked questions and they didn't
seem interested in talking about it.
Kazimierz Gonsowski
Thank you for the
information and the emotions of your page. I recently have been reading
books on the Warsaw Ghetto and Polish History and appreciate learning
more about the Non-Jewish victims. My grandfather is a POW and this page
made me connect the fact that in his stories he speaks of the Poles in
the camps being the majority he saw. Hopefully from people like my grandfather
and pages like this one people will *not* forget.
Emily
Hello:
This site helped me a great deal in a project I had for college. Thanks.
I lost my grand parents during the war and the Holocaust.
Valerie Lockheart
This web site was
very informative. It is a great resource I hope to use for my project.
Jesica in Cleveland.
I really enjoyed
this page. I'm an 18 yr old college student in Michigan that needed information
on the Holocaust for a research paper of my choice. The info on these
pages helped gather the information I needed. Thank you so much.
Traci
Wszyscy ludzie sa
rowni.
pawel jakubas
10/26/1999 7:44:20
PM Pacific Daylight Time
I too, am a child of a Holocaust survivor and get the same questions as
you did about being Jewish. My father, Richard, was in Auschwitz, Buchenwald
and was in a small camp called (Toychentowl) [I'm not sure of the spelling]
before he was liberated in April 25th 1945. We are a small group that
tries to educate the public that there were others that were murdered
in W.W.II. Thank you for the website and it will stay in my favorites.
10/19/1999 11:45:52
AM Pacific Daylight Time
Thank you for such a wonderful site. I have been studying the Holocaust
for some time, trying to understand how it could have happened. A site
like this is very important to keep the memory alive so it will not happen
again. If it is forgotten we will let it happen again.
Again thank you and best regards,
Raymond.
Ms. Schwartz,
My professional compliments on your Website and my sincere thanks for
telling a story that needs to be told. As an American who grew up in a
small Midwestern town during the 1950's, I thought " holocaust" was a
Jewish word. In college I met and immediately fell in love with a young
woman with a family name I had trouble pronouncing even with the American
spelling - Kostushko. Like you, my Irina was born in a Displaced Persons
camp in Germany. She opened my eyes to a whole new chapter of history
- a chapter that remains closed to many Americans even today.
I am a documentary
filmmaker and in September we will re-trace the route of Polish POWs captured
by the Soviets in 1939, through Russia to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan
into Iran. If you go on the web to http://www.iranian.com/History/Nov97/Polish/index.html
you can read one of the stories that will be part of this new documentary.
If you like I will send you photographs and an up-dated version of the
story with permission to put it on your Website. The project has taken
6 years to pull together and I am very grateful to Poles around the world
who have shared their memories with me. Keep up the good work and let
me know what I can do to help.
With best Wishes,
Robert D. Burgener
From: mszuberl@umich.edu
(Marcin Szuberla)
To: Pencak
That is a great site. I am Polish and my grandfather was a prisoner in
a German work camp. Marcin GROSS-ROSEN CAMP Hello, I am writing a term
paper on the Non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust for a history class I
am taking at my college. I had a non-Jewish relative who died at the Gross-Rosen
camp during the Holocaust. I would very much like to receive a copy of
your newsletter. Please let me know if there are any charges. Thank you
very much.
Sincerely
Michael Odahowski
Marquette University
Mashuda Hall Room # 633
1926 W. Wisconsin Ave.
Milwaukee, WI 53233
To: Teresa Pencak
Schwartz:
I'm so sorry, so my English is not correct. My name Daniel Bockowski.
I'm 30 years old. I'm historian of Polish-Soviet relations and citizen
of II Republic of Poland in the USSR during World War II. I live in Poland,
in Bialystok, Zwyciestwa. domel@dom.vr.pl I'm working in Institute of
History Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw, in study The Russia and
the USSR history. My interest that Polish-Soviet relations during World
War II, mass terror in the USSR, deportation of all nations East Europe,
Stalinist system and Soviet machine of total unification, Polish children
in the USRR (especially orphans and half-orphans). I can edit everything,
what you want, in Polish language, but I can't translate it. My English
is too shallow. I can send you more information about Polish children
in USRR, about deportation Polish citizen and about them life in the USRR.
I have dokuments from soviet archives and original photos (~ 100) about
life deportations people in Siberia and Kazakhstan. If you want I send
you something. One very shortly text, about children, I have in English,
second, about Polish citizens in the USRR, in Polish.
Daniel Bockowski
Subj: ...JAK KAMIENIE
PRZEZ BOGA RZUCANE NA SZANIEC.
From: Pawel Szuszkieiwcz
THANK YOU FOR THE
TRUTH. NIECH ZYJE POLSKA!
-A. SLOWINSKI
Dear Ms. Pencak Schwartz:
I would like to use your message on the site. I knew about the forced
labor of Polish citizens in Germany during the WW2 but your message is
very moving. As you say, there were millions of non-Jewish victims who
are forgotten today: citizen of occupied countries kidnapped for forced
labor, executed as hostages, all these minorities exterminated by the
nazis (gypsies, homosexual, etc..). "The Forgotten Camps" is not site
about the Shoah or a remembrance about one type of victims. It is a just
a site trying to show how far fanaticism can lead. Recent news (Rwanda,
Yugoslavia, etc.?) shows that there is still a lot to do...
Best to you,
Vincent Chatel
"The Forgotten Camps - Les camps oubliés" Eng:www2.3dresearch.com/~june/Vincent/Camps/CampsEngl.html
Fr :www2.3dresearch.com/~june/Vincent/Camps/CampsFr.html
Dear Terese,
I have looked at your site again and read some of the pages. The list
of respondents to your site and their comments are a testimony in itself
for the value of your efforts. I too am in touch with students from the
US who study the Holocaust and need all the information they can get.
For years I also participated in Holocaust symposia we hold hear annually
for about 2,000 students of Social Studies 12th grade. In March I attended
the 27th Scholar's Conference on the Holocaust in Tampa, FL, with hundreds
of speakers and recently one in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. More and more
details are discovered and communicated by scholars in a vast number of
fields and some scholars have to make revisions on their earlier books
on the Holocaust. Raul Hilberg is the one that comes to mind. I made a
link to your site on my Links page under Holocaust. I hope the wording
is OK with you. If you would like to have it changed, please let me know.
I hope we can stay in touch at least by mutually visiting our little Web
villages from time to time.
My best wishes to you.
Fritz
Dear Mrs. Pencak Schwartz,
Thank you very much for writing and pointing me to your site. I have taken
a quick look at its first page and I like very much what I see. I will
explore the site a bit more later and probably establish a link on my
Links page. As you will have seen, my site is concerned with Christian
theology and its inherent anti-Judaism and the Jewish response to Christian
re-thinking. The Holocaust as culmination of the history of anti-Semitism
is of course the dark background on which this re-thinking takes place.
And it is for this reason alone that references to the Shoah must appear
on the site. As much as I personally as a Christian and a German live
under the dark shadow of German and Christian guilt for the Shoah, I have
to limit the site to only the above topic, otherwise I would not be able
to handle the work involved. I will probably write again after looking
around and reading your site.
Thanks again and best wishes.
Fritz Voll
fvoll@jcrelations.com http://www.jcrelations.com
I am researching
my family history. My ancestors came from Poland around 1900 but others
stayed and lived around Warsaw. I was wondering if there are lists that
the Germans kept that are available for such research. Thank you for such
a wonderful Website.
Regards,
Tom Woznicki
San Jose, CA
Dominik Thomeyer School Of EECS at Washington State University Hrabia@Ciemnogrod.net
Thomeyer@wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu/~thomeyer
To: historiene@aol.com:
I have just finished adding a whole new section to my web site called,
"the Polish 2nd Corps" web site, which chronicles the preliminary situation,
the German defences, and the day by day events of the Second Polish Corps
during the Battle of Monte Cassino. Please check it out and let me know
what you think of it. The URL is: http://www.accessweb.com/users/rbereznicki/pole1.html-ssi
From: rberezni@thor.accessweb.
Dear Mrs. Schwartz,
I think you'll be interested in this book. Details below but feel free
to get in touch with me if you'd like further information.
Regards,
Irene Tomaszewski
"I Am First a Human
Being -- The Prison Letters of Krystyna Wituska" has just been published.
Translated and edited by Irene Tomaszewski. Excellent reviews, academic
interest in departments of history, literature, women's studies and
Holocaust studies. Czeslaw Milosz said, "The letters of Krystyna
wituska are an unforgettable testimony of human dignity and courage."
Dear
Mrs. Schwartz:
Books should be read, and, because most of the world can read in English,
it would be good to translate it into English with the permission of
the publishers (Fundacja "Archiwum Pomorskie Armii Krajowej"). I am
sure Fundacja would agree because they are short of funds and would
like to see their important work publicised abroad. We may easily help
them in doing it. I am working collecting data on my family. I will
fill out soon several of the forms prepared by you (I am sure I received
my copy of it from Mrs. Jarosz).
Sincerely,
Czeslaw Kentzer
Terese:
I came across your forgotten holocaust site again, and wondered if I
ever sent you a copy of a little book of poems, Language
of Mules, that I published last year about my parents' experience
as slave laborers in Nazi Germany and displaced persons after the war?
I think you might be especially interested in one of the last poems
in the book. It's about my mother's recollections of the liberation
of the camp she was in, and the period immediately following the liberation.
Let me know and I would be pleased to send you the poem.
John Z. Guzlowski
English Department Eastern Illinois University
Charleston, IL 61920
cfjzg@eiu.edu
Ms. Schwartz:
When I was 10 years old we moved from Norway to Surrey, B.C. Canada. We
had with us a diary that was published in Norwegian documenting the years
1942-1945. As far as I know there were only a few copies of the diary
circulated among the Norwegian prisoners. I believe there were 32 in all.
Unfortunately, we lost the diary during one of our many moves and I am
determined to find a copy somewhere. Of the 32 Norwegians my dad was the
last to die. Some of the stories I can still remember were the hanging
of a Russian soldier by the Nazis to celebrate Christmas Eve 1942.
There was an interesting
incident relating to a soccer match that was played to celebrate Hitler's
birthday. The prisoners team was made of mostly Scandinavians and most
of those were part of the soccer team that played in Kristiansund Norway
where my dad was from. In 1938 my father joined the military in Norway.
He showed an exceptional aptitude for mathematics and won a scholarship
to go to Technical High School in Hanover, Germany. His study was jet
engines, but specializing in jet fuel. When Norway was conquered in 1941,
he decided to go back to Norway, he no longer could work in an area that
would prove beneficial to the Nazi regime. When he went back to Norway
he became a police officer in Kristiansund. He tried once to escape to
England to join the war front there, but a storm forced them back. He
was not found out, but was suspicious that one of the fellow escapees
was a traitor. He also refused collaborate with the Nazis and was deemed
uncooperative. In August of 1942 he was arrested and sent to a camp in
western Norway. In December 1942 he was shipped to Oslo where he and other
Norwegian prisoners were march through the street with chains around their
wrist and ankles in the snow with summer clothes on. They were sent Northern
Germany, I believe Bremmen, where they were herded into train cars and
shipped to Stutthof.
He witnessed the execution
of Jews and Polish civilians, which left a mark on him that, he carried
for the rest of his life. He would tell us that he could still hear the
Jewish chants for decades after the war. He was freed by English soldiers
right before he boarded a boat in 1945 when the Nazis tried to eliminate
the prisoners in front of the advancing Allied forces. My dad lived with
the sights and sounds of his experience in Stutthof for the rest of his
life. He refused to talk about it and would turn off TV programs dealing
with concentration camps. It explains a lot about our growing up period,
why dad was the way he was. My goal is to find the diary and write his
story, to hand it down to my children that they will never forget, and
to instill in them the dignity of every human being whatever race, religion,
sex or physical or mental condition.
If you could help
me get in touch with some Stutthof survivors as I try to put the pieces
together, I would really appreciate it. Thanking you in advance for your
help.
Best regards,
Tore Jorgensen
Thank you for your
site on the five million souls who were lost to the Germans during the
war. I was beginning to think I was the only one who remembered that
there were 11 mill. not just 6 that were lost. It would be a great
injustice to them if they had been forgotten. Again I say thank you!!!
Name Withheld
Hi Terese,
I would like to receive your newsletter. The project that my 4th graders
have been working on for the last four years is to collect 11 million
of the pop tops tabs that are on soda cans, fruit cups, cat food cans,
etc.. one pop-top to represent each victim. When I got the original idea,
after seeing Schindler's List, I was only going to collect 6 million,
but as I started reading more about it, I knew I had to collect one to
represent everyone who died.
Ms. Terese,
Attached are photos and comments from my father, a Lieutenant. with the
548th AAA, which stumbled on the atrocity at Gardelegen,
Germany. According to his account, many non-Jewish Poles were killed in
this incident. I'm trying to find out more about this incident, and understand
that this may be a case of where the German civilian population even pitched
in to help round up the prisoners, who were slave laborers on a death
march, and herded them in a huge barn to be burned alive. Anything you
can [do to] direct me to concerning this incident would be appreciated.
[See these dramatic photos on the Photo Page]
Sincerely,
Dwane Powell
Raleigh, NC.
I _still_ cannot get
over the depth and breadth of Hitler's hatred. AS far as I can tell, he
hated just about everyone. Do you happen to know if there were any African
victims in the Holocaust? I've not found any references to black Holocaust
victims, and my African American students always ask. I tell them that
I'm not sure, but I _think_ that they wouldn't have done too well under
the Nazi regime. We have 2.5 million pop tops stacked in boxes in our
school lobby, and last month the local chapter of B'nai B'rith voted to
underwrite our project, for which I am grateful. They've said that they
want to build a big Plexiglas container to display them in when I am done
(which would be a lot more interesting to look at than boxes!). Sadly,
our school doesn't have Internet access yet, which infuriates me to no
end, because there are so many interesting things out here. If I have
to, I'll take my students down to the Cyber Cafe on the weekends so that
they can see the web page, and get a feel for what else is out here.
Cheers,
Kelly Green
Dear Holocaust Forgotten-
Please forward us a copy of your newsletter, we would like to give further
publicity to your excellent work.
Regards,
Dr. David Szuba, Editor
East-European Book Review
"IN MEMORY
OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST" "MAY THEY REST IN PEACE"
Dr. Thomas Miller
To: Historiene@aol.com
I just received a letter from American veteran of Persian Gulf Command
(see related story "Bridge to Victory" on same iranian.com Website) He
knows some of the Polish women who came through Iran and now live here
in the USA. Will let you know what stories develop. Thanks again for your
interest. If you run the story, please include my email address.
Subj: Re: Polish POW's taken to Central Asia by Soviets From: (Robert
D. Burgener)
http://www.iranian.com/History/Nov97/Polish/index.html
Hello:
Just a note to let you know that I appreciate your delicately reminding
the world of the fact that the Holocaust engulfed non-Jews as well as
Jews. Please keep up the good work.
Robert Brodkin
Lubbock, TX
Dear Terese:
My grandparents, father and uncle were part of the first wave of Polish
persons who were kidnapped from their farm with their whole village (just
outside of Lvov) and transported on cattle cars to Siberia in the winter
of 1939. It took my father fifty years to recount this horrific incident
to me (his only child) through which he, his family and fellow villagers
(Catholics and Jews) suffered inhuman conditions, faced starvation and
cruelty by the hand of the Russian Government. Knowing what I know now,
I have great difficulty reconciling the gap of disparity that exists between
the volumes that have been written, spoken, virtually shouted from the
rooftops concerning the Jewish holocaust, and the silence that has persisted
concerning non-Jews, and particularly for those who were victimized by
the Russians.
Through my research
I have found that not much has been written about the Siberian camps.
Always these victims are overshadowed by the Nazi terror. I do not presume
to measure or compare atrocities relative to death camps and labor camps.
As a child of a survivor of this kind of terror, I find that I have much
in common with children of Jewish holocaust survivors. And yet, I have
felt marginalized all of my life. I and others like me have not had the
platform that Jewish survivors have had to heal and to memorialize the
victims. I have not had the support that serves to rally those to remember
never to forget. I have felt almost as repressed as my father had felt
for those 50 years. I am grateful for this forum, the Holocaust Forgotten.
I would like to find a way to include the stories of these victims. Among
them Catholics and Jews. Thank you for listening. I would be grateful
for a reply.
Sincerely,
Judi (Jusczyczyn)
Justin-Schmidt
From: RONISRCOM@webtv.net
Well, about 500,000 Serbs and gypsies were murdered in the Balkans by
the Ustashi, Nazi's, Hungarians, Albanian S.S. and Bosnian Moslem S.S.
the Jasenovac death camp was in many respects the most brutal of all of
the death camps. 20,000 Jews died there also.
Be well,
Ron
Hi,
my name is Kim Poligala and I am in the 8th grade. We are currently doing
a major project on the Holocaust and Anne Frank.
Talking to my parents
about things like this, I learned that my family immigrated to America
when the Nazis took over Poland. I think that plays a major role in me
wanting to learn more about this subject and event. It is unbelievable
that someone could actually treat other people the way the Nazis/Germans
treat the Jewish, Polish and other ethnic groups. I have seen pictures,
read stories, diaries, listened to songs, watched movies and film documentaries,
and researched on Holocaust terms so that I have I much better understanding
of things that was going on during this period of time.
I was wondering if
you could provide me with any powerful quotes or poems pertaining to the
Holocaust. Anything having to do with a "theme" from the Holocaust (courage,
survival, FAITH, pain, torture, etc.) Also, anything that could help me
with my project and encouraging people to really think all of this over
and get involved in knowing about the Holocaust. Thank you for you time
and I look forward to talking to you again.
Sincerely,
Kim Poligala
Hello. I am an 8th
grade student; I am doing a report for school on the Holocaust. We needed
to find articles about it and yours was helpful! Thank you! The whole
class thought your story was very touching. My teacher even cried. Well,
thanks again.
Sincerely,
Krita711
I was doing
a project for school and your site helped a lot.
Jessica
Thank you so much
for putting your articles on the Internet. I was able to get information
that I haven't found yet for a research paper I was doing for my English
Lit class. I just wanted to say 'thank you'.
Sincerely,
Charli Ehle
I am a student
in a webmastery class at Andrews High School. As part of a project, we
are designing a website around a Holocaust theme for a web design contest
sponsored by TCEA (http://www.tcea.org/contests/index.html). I would like
permission to use a variety of survivor's stories from your website. I
will include a link to your page and will send you the address of my Website
as soon as it is finished. If you have questions about our program, please
email me or my teacher, Mr. Fleming.
Thank you
Jacinto Banda
Joseph
Hi,
My father was born in Zabludow Poland (about 25 kilometers Southeast of
Bialystok) in 1913. He left for America with his mother in 1921, but many
family members remained in Zabludow and were murdered in the Holocaust.
They where from a very long line of blacksmiths in Zabludow. I have a
comprehensive Zabludow Memorial Webpage. I recently was able to get all
the survivor testimony from Zabludow translated from Yiddish to English
and I have all 70 or so pages published on my website. It was very interesting
in it to read of the role of the Poles and the nature of the relationship
they had with the Jews in the town. If you're interested in taking a look
at my website the full URL is www.tiac.net/users/bartman/zabludow/zabintro.htm
My primary interest
is in building bridges between people. Even between people where there
has historically been great troubles. From my research my impression is
that there were more rescue and kind acts by Poles towards Jews than I
had previously thought. Some Poles did just very small things, and some
did very risky things that put their own lives at risk. I have learned
that the only surviving member of my grandmother's family, Palter Lopata,
was hidden by a Polish family. I have found a relative in Chicago who
has his written testimony in Yiddish from 1946. He has never translated
it and has no idea what it says. He promises me he is going to scan it
soon and send it to me. I will get it translated. If you look at my website
I'd be most interested in any feedback from you.
Most Sincerely,
Tilford Bartman
Hello Therese,
I read on Internet about the Newsletter for Students and Educators, which
I understand, is available from you. We, in the Washington DC area, would
like to embark on a campaign to spread the word at the local schools and
libraries about Polish Holocaust and deportations to Siberia during WWII.
I think that your Newsletter could be useful in our work - please send
me a copy.
Romuald E Lipinski
Hello,
I am Katrina Ewing; I am of German descent. I am currently writing a book
on the millions killed in the Nazi camps. I am, of course, researching
and researching all the information I can find. In my search I have stumbled
upon your sight, and I feel it was by the grace of God that it was what
I was looking for. Although, I would like to talk to you sometime... somehow...
this book will be from both sides of the story. I want everything known,
from the millions killed whom were not Jews, to the reasons of hate by
the Germans. I myself am sometimes ashamed of my heritage, but I want
it to be known that there is peace where there is knowledge. If you could
help me in anyway please let me know. Thank you so much, I would be more
than happy to receive mail from anyone with a story to share. This book
centers my life right now, and I just want both sides told. Everything
I am finding is horrifying, and I feel that, as a German, it is my duty
to get the truth out. Anyone you could have write, or call me. I have
an 800 number that they could reach me at. I am only 19, and in college.
Katrina Ewing
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